Session Start: Thu Jun 06 00:00:00 2013
Session Ident: #glitchpc
[00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
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[03:32]<@BC_Programming> oh wow
[03:33]<@BC_Programming> <guitar_man> follow what tranfusion says, if I am correct your mobo supports Fat 16
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[03:33]<@BC_Programming> This just in: Motherboards support file-systems apparently...
[03:33] * ChanbotVII sets mode: +v Tux2
[03:39]<+camerongray> WOW!
[03:39]<+camerongray> BC_Programming: That needs a reply!
[03:39]<+camerongray> And hey Tux2
[03:39]<@BC_Programming> Little late that was two hours ago
[03:39]<+camerongray> Ahh :(
[03:39]<+camerongray> Bit like changing windows settings in the BIOS
[03:39]<@BC_Programming> <guitar_man> had an oddball linux fail Transfusion read searches real fast came up with solution
[03:40]<+camerongray> I wonder if that works through parameter files which can't be stored on an SSD
[03:40]<@BC_Programming> Markov chains!
[03:42]<+camerongray> And never hot swap internal things!
[03:43]<@BC_Programming> but you can ALWAYS hot-swap external things
[03:43]<+camerongray> I guess that must also apply to hot swap drives :P
[03:43]<+camerongray> lol!
[03:44]<Transfusion> http://chimrod.com/?perma=1170618410 <--- markov chain IRC bot ))
[03:45]<@BC_Programming> also known as guitar_man
[03:45]<Transfusion> Lol... I got more than a few compliments from guitar_man. I deserve a gold star :/
[03:45]<Transfusion> lmao
[03:45]<Transfusion> BC_Programming++
[03:45]<+pottsi> guitar_man = dick.
[03:45]<+pottsi> that is all
[03:45]<+pottsi> afk
[03:46]<@BC_Programming> apparently he was banned from CH forums... instead of thinking "hmm, what did I do wrong" it's "that place is terrible never go there"
[03:51]<@BC_Programming> hmmm LC only has 300 posts on the forum so cannot see the secret forum for posters with 1K+ posts
[03:58]<+camerongray> lol, thanks pottsi! :P
[03:59]<+pottsi> :)
[03:59]<+camerongray> pottsi: You'd have loved it yesterday!
[03:59]<Zuwer> Ohai pottsi, long time no see.
[03:59]<+camerongray> Was trying to convince me and the guy I was helping spec a PC that he should go with a 1200w PSU since it would run cooler and last longer
[03:59]<+pottsi> <censored> you Zuwer
[03:59]<+pottsi> <3
[03:59]<@BC_Programming> lol
[03:59]<+pottsi> bahahahaha
[03:59]<+camerongray> This was a single GPU system with a Haswell i5
[04:00]<Zuwer> Heh, still as nice as always.
[04:00]<+pottsi> he winds me up
[04:00]<@BC_Programming> he confuses me mostly
[04:00]<+camerongray> He then said he had a 1200w PSU for his 8600GT machine
[04:00]<+pottsi> it's like having to draw pictures to him to get a sentence from him
[04:00]<+camerongray> It was funny since he said this 1200w PSU was $79 AUD
[04:01]<+camerongray> But it would last longer than my 650w Corsair HX that cost around ?90 since it runs at less load *facepalm*
[04:01]<+pottsi> xD
[04:01]<Zuwer> I have to be nice to him, he saved me an hours mowing on the tractor last time he visited here. :s
[04:01]<@BC_Programming> :O you know him IRL... you poor sod
[04:02]<Zuwer> Indeed I do, family friend, lives about 20km to the west of here.
[04:02]<+pottsi> :O
[04:02]<+pottsi> ooooo
[04:02]<+camerongray> hehehe
[04:02]<+pottsi> you're <censored>
[04:02]<+pottsi> xD
[04:02]<Zuwer> And then whipper lives about 40 minutes drive from here too, but never met him in real life.
[04:02]<+camerongray> But, we aren't allowed personal info, and you met a CH member?!?!
[04:02]<+pottsi> xD
[04:03]<@BC_Programming> please don't tell me he talks the same way as his chat, even though that would be hilarious
[04:03]<Zuwer> Heh.
[04:04]<+camerongray> lol
[04:04]<+camerongray> [12:02:34] <guitar_man> told ya ias a cheapy was 79 nz $ ia a aywun
[04:05]<+camerongray> He was here for a couple of days, but then he said something and the guys here sorted him out
[04:05]<Zuwer> Hm?
[04:05]<@BC_Programming> I would have responded with funky waffle band-aid weasel Power sully cheapy new zealand
[04:05]<+camerongray> hahaha!
[04:05]<@BC_Programming> oh yeah I remember that... he said something about Linux being for morons or something
[04:05]<@BC_Programming> gave him a deserved beat-down
[04:06]<@BC_Programming> then he had to leave for unrelated reasons of course
[04:07]<Zuwer> First time I've been ill in like 2 years, I hate it, kill me now. D: (pottsi, t'was sarcasm, please don't).
[04:08]<+camerongray> lol
[04:08] * @BC_Programming sets mode +kill
[04:08]<+camerongray> He also said that XP Pro is more table than Home
[04:08]<@BC_Programming> give him some credit he said stable
[04:09]<+camerongray> hehehe, If people have missed our discussions about "puffing" they will wonder why the hell we keep doing that :P
[04:09]<@BC_Programming> Some people are really old and set in their ways
[04:09]<@BC_Programming> Ask jacky next time you see him for example
[04:10]<Zuwer> I couldn't handle it, too lazy to get it to work with modern hardware (Probably would fail at that). x:
[04:10]<Zuwer> Not that the hardware I have now is really considered modern. :x
[04:11]<@BC_Programming> I have a bunch of Operating Systems in VMs
[04:11]<+camerongray> Even jacky has Windows 7 and a dual core Athlon II with 4gb RAM :P
[04:11]<@BC_Programming> camerongray: yes but he's old
[04:12]<+camerongray> I mean, he did upgrade to that from a Win 98 K6-2 but still :P
[04:12]<+camerongray> Ahh :P
[04:12]<@BC_Programming> :P
[04:12]<+camerongray> He at least uses 7 :P
[04:12]<+camerongray> I doubt he stayed on 98 because it was "the best" :P
[04:12]<Zuwer> I remember going from an Intel Celery to Core i5, I thought that was a big jump.
[04:12]<@BC_Programming> it was mostly a joke, originally I was thinking more along the lines of guitar_man but then realized it might be funny to make a old person joke at Jacky's expense in case he ever reads the logs or something
[04:13]<@BC_Programming> Intel Celery! HAHA! awesome
[04:13]<+camerongray> lol!
[04:13]<+camerongray> Celerons are pretty good now, but used to be really crap!
[04:13]<@BC_Programming> "Intel in the produce section"
[04:13]<+camerongray> heheeh
[04:13]<Zuwer> Heh.
[04:14]<@BC_Programming> yeah the first versions of Celerons were basically Pentium II's with less L1 cache
[04:14]<@BC_Programming> but tried to make up for it with L3 cache or something
[04:14]<+camerongray> Ahh
[04:14]<Zuwer> I didn't mind that Celeron processor until I wanted to run VM's, and being a laptop with no dedicated GFX, Minecraft failed big time. D:
[04:14]<+camerongray> the new ones are nice, built a PC with one, threw in an SSD, works great
[04:15]<+camerongray> Oh, but I'm a monster, the SSD stores programs! db would kill me!
[04:15]<@BC_Programming> I don't like how they always have inflated Ghz
[04:15]<@BC_Programming> Like they almost do that on purpose
[04:15]<@BC_Programming> Celerons always have a higher clock speed and some people think that directly translates to speed
[04:15]<+camerongray> Oh yeah, pottsi - What do you think of db100547?
[04:15]<Zuwer> My SSD stores OS/programs, only games and GC cache and page file is stored away from it.
[04:16]<+camerongray> Yeah, db was being... welll... db...
[04:16]<+camerongray> Saying that an SSD should ONLY hold the OS
[04:16]<+camerongray> Derp!
[04:16]<Zuwer> You get an SSD, makes sense to use it for what it is, a performance upgrade.
[04:16]<@BC_Programming> Zuwer: but does it reserve a Windows workspace?
[04:16]<+camerongray> hahaha!
[04:16]<Zuwer> Heh!
[04:16]<+camerongray> I'll query the DB to find the log
[04:17]<Zuwer> Yea, that explains the missing 83MB of RAM, the Windows Workspace.
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[04:17] * ChanServ sets mode: +o BC_Programming
[04:18]<@BC_Programming> I installed PHPStorm and was about to install RubyMine
[04:18]<@BC_Programming> then I realized I would probably never use them
[04:20]<+camerongray> Here we go!
[04:20]<+camerongray> http://pastebin.com/n62vDHsk
[04:20]<+camerongray> Crappy formatting but still shows DB being a idiot :P
[04:20]<Zuwer> Love the <title> that shows up with.
[04:20]<@BC_Programming> I kinda wish there was a Better IDE for Delphi
[04:20]<+camerongray> lol!
[04:21]<Zuwer> On my screen all I see is "ChickenNBeer!Mibbit@"
[04:21]<+camerongray> Hmm, what about in the pastebin?
[04:21]<+camerongray> Try this: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=n62vDHsk
[04:22]<Zuwer> That is boring, only shows the path. :(
[04:22]<@BC_Programming> I like Delphi but the IDE is such a steaming pile it makes me sad.
[04:22]<@BC_Programming> (the pastebin DB dump seems to work here, btw)
[04:23]<@BC_Programming> I still like how when you asked for an article documenting everything db was describing he went silent
[04:23]<+camerongray> yeah
[04:23]<@BC_Programming> No wait... he had "important business" tasks to deal with surely
[04:23]<+camerongray> Digs himself into a hole trying ot act smart
[04:23]<+camerongray> hehehe
[04:24]<+camerongray> Yesterday a forklift truck ran over a cable between two buildings - Now, why would there be a network cable where a forklift truck can run over it? :P
[04:24]<@BC_Programming> Yeah I was just writing something on that, I think Quantos was tempted to call him on it
[04:24]<+camerongray> Ahh, nice!
[04:25]<Zuwer> I don't understand it though, SSD's are at the point where consumers are more likely to buy a new PC before they kill it. :/
[04:25]<+camerongray> I'm sure he makes crap up!
[04:25]<@BC_Programming> he does, I can tell, he shows all the signs I do
[04:25]<+camerongray> Yeah, And what about laptops with only SSD, like the one I'm typing this on
[04:25]<@BC_Programming> :P
[04:25]<+camerongray> This SSD stores the OS, programs and even data files
[04:25]<+camerongray> And it works fine!
[04:25]<Zuwer> With DB's logic, you need an external always plugged in.
[04:25]<+camerongray> yeah
[04:26]<@BC_Programming> I think he was working from the general idea that if you have to choose, put the OS on the SSD and use HDDs for data
[04:26]<+camerongray> The reason I have the SSD is so I can smash my laptop around without breaking it - Can't do that if there's an SSD in there
[04:26]<@BC_Programming> I'm sure we've all heard that, abut then he started to make stuff up surrounding it and that's where he got himself in trouble
[04:26]<+camerongray> yeah, but mushed it out of shape
[04:26]<+camerongray> Bavid Dunce... :P
[04:27]<@BC_Programming> Oh no! No personal info!
[04:27]<+camerongray> Zuwer: If you google his nick, it's... interesting... :P
[04:27]<Zuwer> So the no personal info thing applies to what channel?
[04:27]<+camerongray> CH :P
[04:27]<@BC_Programming> No we're poking fun
[04:27]<Zuwer> Really? Oops. :x
[04:28]<+camerongray> lol, Quantos freaked at a guy saying he's from the UK
[04:28]<Zuwer> Hmm, not sure if it is safe to Google that or not. :P
[04:28]<+camerongray> Just... use incognito...
[04:28]<+camerongray> And watch where you clicj
[04:28]<@BC_Programming> Zuwer: some of the results are NSFW...
[04:28]<+camerongray> click*
[04:28]<Zuwer> ... If he using the Mibbit client or widget he could find the country easy enough...
[04:28]<@BC_Programming> did.... did Guitar_man just post a link to a basic System Information tool to find out what specific motherboard version a person has?
[04:29]<+camerongray> Zuwer: For me, my hostmask has my domain in it!
[04:29]<+camerongray> And I refuse to pay for Whois privacy :P
[04:29]<@BC_Programming> I don't have whois privacy on my domain because I don't care what people find out about me
[04:29]<Zuwer> I couldn't care less if someone knew what city I was, or what ISP I use. :/
[04:30]<+camerongray> Yeah
[04:30]<@BC_Programming> Also unlike db searching my screen name brings up results from the MVP site, LinkedIn... etc
[04:30]<+camerongray> Yeah, DB's on the other hand...
[04:33]<Zuwer> Also, at what you said earlier, doesn't msinfo32 also show mobo info?
[04:33]<+camerongray> Oh yeah - Zuwer, pottsi - Have you seen ChanbotVII's 'trick' for db?
[04:34]<@BC_Programming> Zuwer: not detailed enough, the info they want is only going to be printed on the motherboard itself, most likely
[04:34]<Zuwer> BC_Programming: True, didn't really check what they wanted to find out.
[04:34]<Zuwer> camerongray: I think I saw a short log about something related to that, haven't been in channel to see it though.
[04:34]<+camerongray> Ahh, it's brilliant!
[04:35]<+camerongray> DB tries to spy on us to see what we are saying about CH - Joins under the name "far_cry"
[04:35]<+camerongray> ChanbotVII: AWOOGA AWOOGA 'db' alert!
[04:35]<Zuwer> Heh.
[04:35]<+camerongray> Followed by "Hey db, how long will you stay today"
[04:35]<+pottsi> srsly?
[04:35]<+camerongray> Yep!
[04:35]<+camerongray> jacky added it :P
[04:36]<Zuwer> T'is a very useful feature.
[04:36]<+pottsi> whos db?
[04:36]<@BC_Programming> db100527
[04:36]<+camerongray> db100547 in CH
[04:37]<@BC_Programming> oh 547
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[04:37]<+pottsi> ahhh
[04:37]<PCdoc> wow
[04:37]<PCdoc> camerongray: :D
[04:37]<@BC_Programming> huh
[04:38]<+camerongray> Hey PCdoc
[04:38]<PCdoc> i learned of this channel when i was reading that thread with RalphSpencer and BC_Programming .. wow!! everytime i read it i just cant stop laughing ..
[04:38]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah
[04:38]<PCdoc> where was I at that time!! ghosh
[04:39]<+camerongray> Topic should be: 'A place where to rant about people giving bad advice in CH'
[04:39]<+camerongray> Not you of course...
[04:40]<@BC_Programming> this one by chance:http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,97468.0.html
[04:40]<+camerongray> hahaha, I remember that!
[04:40]<Zuwer> Because I'm sure having a /topic like that won't lead to a channel ban on #GlitchPC, if any of the H/OP's know how to set that.
[04:41]<+camerongray> lol
[04:41]<+camerongray> They can't ban the channel :P
[04:41]<@BC_Programming> isn't LC an IRCOp? I seem to remember that being the case at some point
[04:41]<+camerongray> Well, that's a scary thought
[04:41]<Zuwer> Nope, as far as I know, never has.
[04:42]<PCdoc> yeah i was reading this BC_Programming
[04:42]<+pottsi> nope he hasen't
[04:42]<PCdoc> :D
[04:42]<Zuwer> He's like me, a channel HOP/OP in the "official" channels.
[04:42]<+pottsi> he was 'op@ (helper)
[04:42]<+pottsi> be he left
[04:42]<Zuwer> So people like pottsi picks on me.
[04:42]<+camerongray> Ahh, phrew!
[04:42]<+pottsi> indeed
[04:42]<+pottsi> camerongray they can ban a channel ( if they wanted too)
[04:42]<Zuwer> ~c: IIRC.
[04:42]<+pottsi> ^
[04:43]<@BC_Programming> how would that work? nicks on the channel can't join?
[04:43]<PCdoc> BC_Programming: i dont know if he is rirc cop, but he is attached to mibbit, coz when 3-4 yrs ago when i was just hanging around on all channels trying to understand to us e irc :P lostcoast was the part of mibbit
[04:43]<Zuwer> Mhm.
[04:43]<+pottsi> anyon in #channelX can't join #ChannelY
[04:43]<+camerongray> Ahh!
[04:43]<+pottsi> PCdoc he was just a helper
[04:43]<+pottsi> nothing more
[04:43]<+pottsi> he cleaned my shoes whilst i'm at the top :)
[04:44]<Zuwer> pottsi: Does that also disallow people from that chatting if the ban was set after they had already joined?
[04:44]<+camerongray> He seems to be a nice guy, but like the others can't take a correction
[04:44]<Zuwer> I can't remember. :/
[04:44]<PCdoc> pottsi: may be .. he also had op power in help channel
[04:44]<+pottsi> hop
[04:44]<Zuwer> Why did he run off in the end?
[04:44]<+pottsi> umm Zuwer, i though have thought so
[04:44]<+pottsi> he had an argument with me Zuwer
[04:44]<Zuwer> Ah.
[04:44]<+pottsi> expected rest of staff to go chasing after him
[04:45]<+pottsi> game over.
[04:45]<+camerongray> This is what happens when I try to correct lostcoast: http://pastebin.com/h6uf4pxf
[04:45]<+pottsi> xD
[04:45]<PCdoc> one thing i hate about him and his counterparts is when u advice someone with some solution, and ACCORDING to THEM if its wrong, then u r not allowed to continue with the same. and if u insist u get a warning
[04:45]<+camerongray> yeah
[04:45]<@BC_Programming> I like Patio's first diagnosis: "pirated windows"
[04:45]<+camerongray> I didn't een get a warning
[04:46]<+camerongray> I bet if I said "lame advice" to him, I'd get banned!
[04:46]<@BC_Programming> "I can't seem to install CUPS on FreeBSD" and patio would suggest it's because of pirated Windows
[04:46]<+camerongray> Seriously, removing the HDD from a new external enclosure is like taking it out the box, just a fancy box!
[04:46]<+camerongray> lol!
[04:46]<+camerongray> They just won't take a correction which is my main issue
[04:46]<Zuwer> :o My 500GB HDD is from an external.
[04:46]<PCdoc> yesterday a guest said his windows threw a BSOD when trying to setup xp. I said this can help if he changes the setting of RAID/SATA to IDE or enhanced to compatible etc. i have myself tried it
[04:46]<PCdoc> patio jumps in saying, U R WRONG!!
[04:47]<@BC_Programming> PCDoc: you are right
[04:47]<+camerongray> "You can't install a different version of Windows Vista from the version the DVD was intended for" and "You have to use GParted to install Windows over a Linux partition"
[04:47]<PCdoc> then he probably PM's or /notice lostcoast that PCdoc is giving wrong solution and insisting and arguing
[04:47]<+camerongray> I actually took a Fedora laptop I wasn't using, Installed Vista business from home premium media
[04:48]<@BC_Programming> Yeah I did notice when I was trying to tell db that no, there is no such thing as a "Windows workspace" that suddenly LC came about
[04:48]<+camerongray> And he still insists I was doing something funny
[04:48]<+camerongray> And even after I sent him a link showing that Win7 Home Premium includes Aero, he still says I'm wrong!
[04:49]<PCdoc> when lostcoast is in bad mood or something, if he thinks the guest should not be helped for some stupid reason according to him, I have seen he will ask camerongray to stop helping him ??
[04:49]<+camerongray> Yep!
[04:49]<+camerongray> I remember when I first got banned...
[04:49]<PCdoc> he will find 100s of reason not to help that guy, coz continuing will hurt lostcoast's EGO
[04:49]<+camerongray> A guest had been told to go to the forum, I joined and realised the guest had almost the same board as me, and I had had the exact same issue with mine and fixed with a BIOS update
[04:50]<PCdoc> BC_Programming: i had read somwehere in chat forums someone saying there's no stuff like EGO of ops there that they wanna enforce say <censored> on u. but there is EGO ..
[04:50]<+camerongray> I helped, Got mad at being told to stop so continuied and got banned
[04:50]<@BC_Programming> reading that chat log with Ralph, I do wonder how Mibbit has been since Ralph Took control of Mibbit in November 2011
[04:50]<PCdoc> they mis-use there powers
[04:50]<+camerongray> This shows their true colours: http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,136895.0.html
[04:50]<@BC_Programming> that was a fun topic
[04:50]<@Mulreay> haha I forgot how funny that thread was
[04:51]<@BC_Programming> hey Mulreay
[04:51]<Zuwer> Mr Q man annoys me more when he counts every person who leaves after he has helped, as a successful help.
[04:51]<@Mulreay> hey BC_Programming
[04:51]<PCdoc> lol that ralph used to PM me and irritate me with his non-sense
[04:51]<+camerongray> hey Mulreay
[04:51]<@BC_Programming> Q man?
[04:51]<PCdoc> but he was probably an indian or muslim, coz he spoke my language (indian)
[04:51]<Zuwer> Quantos.
[04:51]<@Mulreay> hey camerongray
[04:51]<Zuwer> 'Evening person I don't think I've seen before.
[04:51]<@BC_Programming> muslims don't speak Indian :P
[04:51]<+camerongray> Oh yeah, racist comments from lostcoast are also fun...
[04:52]<PCdoc> BC_Programming: its HINDI actually which is the common language ... which some muslim indians also speak
[04:52]<@BC_Programming> ahh but Muslim is just like saying Christian is what I was thinking
[04:52]<Transfusion> IRC is an oligarchy... > Monoplois? monopolize? lol
[04:53]<PCdoc> BC_Programming: muslim i.e. pakistan was at one time part of India which was partitioned and made another country at the time of independence of india
[04:54]<+camerongray> Oh yeah pottsi, Should have been there ages ago when we were discussing servers, apparantly, "No servers need more than 12gb RAM" and I have no idea what I'm doing with mine
[04:54]<@BC_Programming> running game servers obviously camerongray
[04:54]<+camerongray> lol
[04:54]<+camerongray> db: "What do you use this 'server' for"
[04:55]<+camerongray> patio: "Video games"
[04:55]<+pottsi> xD
[04:55]<+camerongray> me: "Erm... It's virtualised, there is a game server run by someone else (Tux2) but the rest is all web apps and mail"
[04:55]<+camerongray> I also like how he put the quotes round "server"
[04:55]<@BC_Programming> I haven't even touched that Minecraft server, it's still on 1.5.1
[04:55]<+camerongray> This 'server' is a Dell Poweredge cs24-sc
[04:56]<PCdoc> i remember once i was talking about ubuntu ad lostcoast started like "ubuntu sux, it does require antivirus coz they have virus" and i was like ?? what ??
[04:57]<+camerongray> lol!
[04:57]<@BC_Programming> I don't like Ubuntu much either but at least I have better reasons
[04:57]<+camerongray> I love the anitvirus stuff...
[04:57]<@BC_Programming> Mostly I think Shuttleworth is a doofus
[04:57]<+camerongray> You need x and y and don't forget z
[04:57]<+camerongray> I run MSE and that's it!
[04:57]<@BC_Programming> cam: and don't forget these 20 registry cleaners!
[04:57]<+camerongray> lol!
[04:57]<PCdoc> just because that guy doesnt like that particular OS, he will force others to goto ubuntu forums and ask for help ..
[04:58]<+camerongray> Yeah
[04:58]<PCdoc> i sometimes think if lostcoast own CH or nathan :P
[04:58]<+camerongray> Or "use microsoft support"
[04:58]<PCdoc> yeah
[04:58]<@BC_Programming> lostcoast pretty much owns the CH channel
[04:58]<+camerongray> I have never had help from MS :P
[04:58]<+camerongray> He does, Nathan still hasn't responded to me on FB
[04:58]<PCdoc> and then why does he direct ppl to PM nathan then ?
[04:58]<+camerongray> Because Nathan won't do anything :P
[04:58]<@BC_Programming> so he doesn't have to talk to them anymore
[04:58]<+camerongray> Like sending it to /dev/null :P
[04:59]<PCdoc> wow!!
[04:59]<@BC_Programming> dev/null sounds like Ubuntu talk
[04:59]<PCdoc> i think adolf hitler was better than lostcoast :(
[04:59]<+camerongray> lol
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[04:59]<@BC_Programming> uh
[04:59]<@BC_Programming> really now let's get a little perspective here
[04:59]<+camerongray> lol
[04:59]<@BC_Programming> how many people has LostCoast killed in gas chambers?
[04:59] * PCdoc lostcoast sets mode +b
[04:59]<@BC_Programming> couldn't be more than a dozen
[05:00]<PCdoc> i was one of them, when i PM'd nathan and he fixed it for me, must be like days before ralhspencer struck mibbit
[05:00]<@BC_Programming> Certainly not enough to call it a ... Holocoast
[05:00]<+camerongray> pottsi: Oh yeah, db100547 is in Manchester, I say you and Mulreay gang up and sort him out...
[05:00]<+camerongray> Oh wait, personal info
[05:01]<@BC_Programming> haha ... holocoast! See how clever I am
[05:01]<+camerongray> hehehe
[05:01]<+camerongray> I still like 'Bavid Dunce'
[05:01]<PCdoc> he is allowed to change his nick to something like PCduck or something .. teasing me in fun. But if i do the same ?? be careful
[05:02]<+pottsi> where in manchester camerongray?
[05:02]<+camerongray> profiles*
[05:02]<+pottsi> link
[05:02]<+pottsi> pic
[05:02]<PCdoc> man-chest-er
[05:02]<+pottsi> :D
[05:02]<PCdoc> manbreaster
[05:03]<@BC_Programming> apparently he has favourited some pornographic videos
[05:03]<@BC_Programming> using his "secret" online identity...
[05:03]<+pottsi> o_O
[05:03]<@BC_Programming> yes that's the face I made too
[05:03]<+camerongray> Just says manchester :P
[05:04]<@BC_Programming> well manchester is a big place
[05:04]<+camerongray> pottsi: Google him, a few pages in....
[05:04]<PCdoc> i read in news yesterday, a 65 yrs old chinese went to doc complaining abt internel stomach being swollen. just to find out after that he was instead a women :-s
[05:04]<+camerongray> Made Calum forcefully expell coffee from his mouth
[05:04]<@BC_Programming> most people call that spitting it out
[05:04]<+camerongray> lol, I was using Calum's words
[05:05]<@BC_Programming> true
[05:05]<+camerongray> And he was brave enough to actually click some of the links
[05:05]<@BC_Programming> oh wow this thread is hilarious, Ralph is all "you could have made up those logs"
[05:05]<@BC_Programming> "It is possible that I made it up right now. But I have a very difficult time accurately emulating stupid without a real-life example."
[05:05]<+pottsi> i'm not sure who i'm looking for camerongray?
[05:05]<PCdoc> camerongray: how did these rockets etc get hop's ?? when they were just like regular helpers some time ago like us ?
[05:06]<+camerongray> pottsi: Just google 'db100547' and go through them
[05:06]<PCdoc> actually, gat_man was also hop.. but i had to make my moves to get his powers dissolved !!
[05:06]<+camerongray> PCdoc: Yeah, they listened to lc and didn't go against him
[05:06]<@BC_Programming> apparently his real name is Dave Bunce
[05:07]<+camerongray> yeah
[05:07]<+camerongray> He's a 47 year old man seeking seeking a woman between 20 and 40
[05:07]<+camerongray> His words, not mine
[05:08]<@BC_Programming> "I need a lady to stroke my long neckbeard and wash my Fedora"
[05:09]<+camerongray> lol
[05:09]<+camerongray> pottsi!!!!! - He may be in "Cheadle Cheshire, (Near Manchester)"
[05:09]<+camerongray> http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,64182.msg516211.html#msg516211
[05:10]<@BC_Programming> heh... Chesire
[05:10]<@BC_Programming> heh... Cheshire*
[05:10]<+pottsi> meh that's abit away
[05:10]<+pottsi> still do able
[05:10]<+pottsi> i'll go fill him in
[05:10]<+pottsi> :)
[05:10]<@BC_Programming> heheh
[05:11]<+camerongray> lol
[05:11]<@BC_Programming> if I have another argument with him at some point I might just say
[05:11]<@BC_Programming> "oh yeah? I know where you live"
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[05:11]<+camerongray> And who you are seeking :P
[05:11]<@BC_Programming> and watch the puff-fest
[05:11]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah
[05:12]<@BC_Programming> all the hits I get say he works at a "School of Motoring"
[05:13]<+camerongray> Yeah, saw that before
[05:14]<+camerongray> No matter what he does, there is no information that he works for any big company :P
[05:14]<+camerongray> I mean, someone like that would be on Linkedin
[05:14]<@BC_Programming> one day I will be forced to call him on it
[05:14]<@BC_Programming> well I mean call him on it again, since I sort of did on the forum
[05:14]<+camerongray> Where about?
[05:15]<+camerongray> BC_Programming: Where in the forum?
[05:16]<@BC_Programming> that post you made
[05:16]<@BC_Programming> I didn't really call him out, I said that for people that claim to have been working at this so long they sure don't know much about it
[05:16]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah
[05:17]<+camerongray> He just makes no sense
[05:19]<@BC_Programming> http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,47487.msg298492.html#msg298492
[05:19]<@BC_Programming> guess the significance
[05:22]<+camerongray> First post?
[05:22]<@BC_Programming> yep my first post ever on CH
[05:24]<+camerongray> Look who the person I first tried to help was: http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,83500.msg554747.html#msg554747
[05:25]<@BC_Programming> small world
[05:30]<+camerongray> Yeah!
[05:30]<+camerongray> And jacky was in your thread!
[05:36]<+pottsi> know of any good php customer management systems?
[05:36]<@Mulreay> wow, that was a long time ago :)
[05:38]<+camerongray> pottsi: CRM?
[05:38]<+camerongray> We use SugarCRM at work, I never use it though :P
[05:39]<+camerongray> Ahem... I use it all the time, in fact I'm an expert - I manage all the IT systems for the company and now I have to go and take an important phone call
[05:39]<+camerongray> Sorry, slipped into db mode :P
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[05:54]<+camerongray> web
[05:54]<@BC_Programming> web web!
[05:54]<+camerongray> lol, bloody android!
[05:54]<@Mulreay> web web web
[05:55]<@BC_Programming> now let's not take this to far
[05:55]<+camerongray> he he he
[05:55]<+camerongray> lol
[05:55]<+camerongray> see! I fixed it! now says lol instead of Lola
[05:57]<@BC_Programming> your phone must be a fan of the kinks
[05:57]<+camerongray> lol
[05:58]<+camerongray> it just doesn't understand shortened words
[05:58]<@BC_Programming> that's ironic since those types of shortened words are basically inherent to texting
[05:59]<+camerongray> yeah
[06:01]<+camerongray> that was interesting, lived here for 19 years and that's the first time I've heard the "one o'clock gun"
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[06:03]<PCdoc> night (dark) at 5:30pm
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[06:03]<PCdoc> solid dark clouds...
[06:03]<PCdoc> seems like bad rain
[06:04]<+camerongray> I was like "what was that?" then looked at the time
[06:05]<+camerongray> been too hot here recently
[06:05]<+camerongray> !w Edinburgh, UK
[06:05]<PCdoc> man this is gonna be a bad stormy rain
[06:05]<PCdoc> i think i shld better turn off pc to avoid lightening dammage :-s
[06:05]<+camerongray> that can't be right!
[06:06]<PCdoc> !w india
[06:06]<+camerongray> 18c, must be way more!
[06:06]<PCdoc> !w Pune, India
[06:07]<+camerongray> jeez, that would kill me!
[06:07]<PCdoc> !w Mumbai, India
[06:08]<+camerongray> then again, us Scots aren't used to anything over 15c :P
[06:08]<PCdoc> 15 :-o
[06:08]<PCdoc> !w Manali, India
[06:08]<PCdoc> that ?
[06:08]<PCdoc> thats northern part with snow hills
[06:09]<+camerongray> Theres a guy from India at uni, came over when it was snowing, he was dying :P
[06:10]<+camerongray> I could go to any park now and there would be people having BBQs :P
[06:12]<PCdoc> i think i shld log off
[06:12]<PCdoc> BRB ...
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[06:15]<+camerongray> I have seriously just bought an ice cream, 18c is that hot for us!
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[06:51]<@Mulreay> !w manchester uk
[06:52]<@Mulreay> !fc manchester uk
[06:52]<@Mulreay> !sky manchester uk
[06:53]<+camerongray> Mulreay: Are you melting?
[06:53]<@Mulreay> lol, just about.. I have two fans blowing in my face
[06:53]<+camerongray> Ahh, I'm at work, no AC/Fans in the office
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[06:58]<PCdoc> m too at work ..
[06:58]<PCdoc> only 1 fan .. raining outside ..
[06:58]<PCdoc> if i was not in my jeans i wld have gone out in rains... wow
[06:59]<+camerongray> Ahh :P
[06:59]<+camerongray> I could open the window, but it's far away and I'm too hot to get up
[07:00]<@Mulreay> lol
[07:00]<+camerongray> "Far away" meaning 3m
[07:00]<@BC_Programming> not hot here so hah
[07:00]<+camerongray> lol
[07:00]<+camerongray> Scottish weather is just broken!
[07:01]<@Mulreay> So is Manchester
[07:01]<+camerongray> In one day you can realistically get clear skies and sun, then rain, then hail
[07:01]<+camerongray> http://www.taps-aff.co.uk/
[07:01]<+camerongray> Sadly I can't obey it :P
[07:01]<@Mulreay> We have the Pennines next to us so all the clouds from the atlantic get stuck over us and just go nuts with rain.. then the next day it's 20c
[07:04]<+camerongray> Ahh
[07:04]<+camerongray> Here it's hot, cold, rain, snow
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[07:16]<+camerongray> Hey jacky
[07:17]<@jacky> camerongray: Hello
[07:18]<@BC_Programming> Jacky:I was just telling camerongray and the others about how you have such a versed knowledge of history
[07:18]<@BC_Programming> It's because you're old <g>
[07:18]<@jacky> (stand by... I have to go feed my pet dinosaur... brb)
[07:19]<@BC_Programming> heheh
[07:19]<@jacky> ok... back. I have a question about batch files on Dos 5.0
[07:19]<@jacky> >g<
[07:20]<@jacky> you are just envious. Because *I* didn't have to study as much history as you all did. ha!
[07:21]<@BC_Programming> I can do batch files on DOS 5
[07:21]<@BC_Programming> don't you know I have to manage hundreds of PCs with DOS on them for my big important company
[07:21]<@jacky> doink! you are now OLD!
[07:21]<@jacky> oh... hahahahaha
[07:21]<@jacky> networking them is tricky, eh?
[07:22]<@jacky> rats... what WAS that networking environment named? .... I can't remember ...
[07:22]<@BC_Programming> Netware?
[07:22]<@jacky> that's it
[07:22]<@jacky> I never got ahold of a copy
[07:22]<@BC_Programming> Novell
[07:22]<@jacky> it just did the networking, and created an environment for DOS to run it... right?
[07:23]<@BC_Programming> No idea, actually
[07:23]<@jacky> heh
[07:23]<@BC_Programming> I do know that I got an ethernet card a few years ago that actually came with Drivers for DOS
[07:23]<@jacky> Ever use DESQView?
[07:23]<@BC_Programming> Never used DESQView... I might have messed about with it once or twice but never actually used it
[07:23]<@jacky> dos drivers... thinking... but DOS couldn't network... what would you do with it?
[07:24]<@BC_Programming> the drivers came with the stuff like the net command
[07:24]<@BC_Programming> so you could do net map and map remote shares to drives
[07:24]<@jacky> I used it. Neat stuff. I've forgotten the keystrokes, but basically you opened a new window for each instance of DOS.
[07:24]<@jacky> ok on commands
[07:25]<@jacky> there was a memory manager that went along with DESQView. ...
[07:25]<@jacky> QEMM
[07:25]<@jacky> I think I had a whopping 8 meg of ram
[07:25]<@jacky> not even sure about that ...
[07:25]<@BC_Programming> my 386 had 8MB, so did my thinkpad
[07:26]<@jacky> this was a 486 DX 33 if I recall
[07:26]<@jacky> started with 4 meg, I guess
[07:26]<@jacky> I remember that it cost a fortune to increase the ram
[07:26]<@jacky> had a huuuuuuge hd. like 700 meg
[07:26]<@jacky> :)
[07:27]<@BC_Programming> my 386 had two 50MB drives
[07:27]<@jacky> Wow!
[07:27]<@jacky> :)
[07:27]<@BC_Programming> one was marked as a dud
[07:27]<@jacky> by the way... serious this time... about the age stuff: why did you have a 386?
[07:27]<@jacky> wasn't that an antique by the time you came along?
[07:27]<@BC_Programming> yes
[07:27]<@BC_Programming> started with computers in like 2003
[07:28]<@jacky> that 386 was passe` in 1993 though
[07:28]<@BC_Programming> with a 286 with monochrome and 1MB of memory and a tiny 40MB HD
[07:28]<@BC_Programming> yep
[07:28]<@jacky> where were you finding this stuff?
[07:28]<@BC_Programming> 286 was an ancient machine I dug out of a closet
[07:28]<+camerongray> I had a 486SX :P
[07:28]<@jacky> heh. cool
[07:28]<@BC_Programming> 386 was given to me by my Computer Science Teacher
[07:29]<@jacky> ah
[07:29]<@BC_Programming> it was a Server machine
[07:29]<@BC_Programming> tower case
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[07:29]<@jacky> weiged about 50 pounds?
[07:29]<@BC_Programming> about
[07:29]<+camerongray> Mine had 4mb RAM, 1mb VRAM and 100mb HDD :P
[07:29]<+camerongray> Still got it!
[07:29]<@BC_Programming> could have smuggled a toddler across the border by stuffing them inside
[07:29]<@jacky> had 400 serial ports on the back?
[07:30]<@jacky> camerongray: and where did you manage to get a 486?
[07:30]<@BC_Programming> nah... didn't have many expansion cards when I got it
[07:30]<@BC_Programming> iirc just the video card and the I/O board, I think
[07:30]<@BC_Programming> back when I/O boards were required, that is
[07:30]<@jacky> BC_Programming: I meant built in. somebody I knew had one like that... I just remember seeing all the ports.
[07:30]<@jacky> heh
[07:30]<+camerongray> Was our family PC (Got in 1992), was given it in 2004 to play about with
[07:31]<+camerongray> We bought it new, must have been at least ?2000
[07:31]<@BC_Programming> I don't recall a huge number of built-in connectors though
[07:31]<@jacky> camerongray: they don't build 'em like they used to, huh?
[07:31]<@jacky> BC_Programming: ok.
[07:31]<+camerongray> Nope! And this was a cheap, low end one
[07:31]<+camerongray> "Ambra Sprinta"
[07:31]<@jacky> I wonder what that translates too...
[07:31]<+camerongray> Ambra being part of IBM for cheaper home machines
[07:31]<@BC_Programming> I ended up frying the 386 while uh.. "learning" about the power connector
[07:31]<+camerongray> http://ipenburg.home.xs4all.nl/dds/sprinta.htm
[07:31]<@BC_Programming> eg the powr switch
[07:32]<@jacky> BC_Programming: what were you trying to do? hehehee
[07:32]<@BC_Programming> But that was after I had been given the K6-2
[07:32]<@BC_Programming> well had no internet and limited sources of info so I basically had to learn stuff through trial and error
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[07:33]<@BC_Programming> with the 286 for example I remember I flipped the two power connectors around to try to make it go faster
[07:33]<@jacky> camerongray: did you see where it says, "... OS/2 Warp version 3 " ? :)
[07:33]<+camerongray> Yeah
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[07:33]<@jacky> BC_Programming: brilliant
[07:33]<@jacky> hehe
[07:33]<+camerongray> Ours ran/runs its factory install of Windows 3.1
[07:33]<@BC_Programming> it somehow survived
[07:33]<@jacky> camerongray: that loads DOS something first. I wonder what ver of Dos...
[07:34]<+camerongray> 5
[07:34]<@jacky> did anybody else here ever try OS/2? either 3 or 4 ?
[07:34]<@BC_Programming> I don't remember what was on my thinkpad
[07:34]<@BC_Programming> I'll look it up, could be 3 or 4
[07:34]<+camerongray> I played with it, but not that long ago
[07:34]<@jacky> camerongray: I think I had Dos 5 for a while. I remember 6.0, upgrading, etc. ending up with 6.22, I think
[07:35]<@jacky> OS/2 was actually solid and good stuff. Lost out due to better marketing. Bill Gate$ is good at that.
[07:35]<@jacky> OS/2 did Dos better than Dos did Dos. :)
[07:35]<@BC_Programming> Yep it was Warp 3.0
[07:36]<@jacky> I had both 3 and 4. spent more time with 4. Never scratched the surface on really, really exploring it fully
[07:37]<+camerongray> I suppose I can throw OS/2 on the old Armada
[07:37]<@jacky> phone... be back soon
[07:40]<+camerongray> Armada is a 366MHz Pentium II with 128mb RAM so pretty good period
[07:44]<@BC_Programming> http://sourceforge.net/projects/osfree/
[07:46]<@jacky> back
[07:46]<@jacky> "open source analogue of IBM OS/2"
[07:46]<@jacky> what does analogue mean there?
[07:48]<@BC_Programming> similar
[07:48]<+camerongray> Looks cool
[07:48]<+camerongray> bit like reactos
[07:48]<@jacky> BC_Programming: thought so..
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[08:50]<@Mulreay> Jump ship people!!!
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[08:54]<@Mulreay> I love some of the spam I get on one of my sites
[08:54]<@Mulreay> I am not certain the place you're getting your information, but good topic. I needs to spend a while finding out much more or understanding more. Thank you for great info I used to be in search of this info for my mission.
[08:55]<@Mulreay> I am intrigued about the 'mission'
[09:00]<+camerongray> lol
[09:06]<@Mulreay> Hahaha my brother just text me 'your new videos are sh*t'
[09:07]<@Mulreay> then 'oh damn I meant short, sorry'
[09:07]<@Mulreay> had me going for a while there
[09:27]<+camerongray> lol
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[12:02]<@Calum> whoah...glitch in the matrix...
[12:03]<jamer> Lol calum
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[12:13]<+camerongray> Hey Calum
[12:18]<@Calum> hey cameron
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[12:23]<@Calum> looks like I'm heading into work on Sunday for a while
[12:30]<+camerongray> Yay! :P
[12:30]<@Calum> I know right
[12:31]<@Calum> We're moving the server room and it turns out our network contractors won't re-patch everything, nor will they turn the servers etc back on
[12:31]<@Calum> so I have to go in, patch in 100 or so phone lines, plus all the data points, boot all the servers and switches back up, and pray to god nothing goes wrong
[12:32]<@Calum> our test last night didn't go too well, the spam filter didn't come back online too nicely and blocked all of our incoming mail, which was fun
[12:32]<+camerongray> lol
[12:32]<+camerongray> Just ask db, he can help :P
[12:32]<+camerongray> Ouch!
[12:32]<@Calum> Oh I'm sure he will, I'd just be worried about him using our network for "other purposes"
[12:32]<+pottsi> you've let him?
[12:33]<@Calum> nah, I'm just messing heh
[12:33]<+camerongray> lol, our work network is nice and simple :P
[12:33]<@Calum> ours is a mess, thanks to roughly 10 years of stagnation
[12:33]<@Calum> and haphazard adding
[12:34]<@Calum> our server room was the old boiler room, so water pipes run on two sides and directly above it...the toilets are also directly above. Possibly the worst place in the entire building for it
[12:34]<+camerongray> Few PCs in the office, few tower servers in the cupboard (One does Samba, Mail, Active Directory .etc, another does phone and another is backup)
[12:34]<+camerongray> Then a few mismatched servers colocated with Pulsant
[12:34]<+camerongray> lol!
[12:35]<@Calum> we're supposed to be integrating and matching our network with the other companies in the group, it's such a huge mess right now
[12:35]<@Calum> three of us are getting there, slowly, but the users are very resistant to the changes
[12:36]<@Calum> one of the companies (my old employer) is on lotus notes for everything...transitioning them to Outlook will be fun
[12:36]<@Calum> we need new servers for everything, especially storage and domain controllers
[12:36]<@Calum> we still have XP machines kicking around
[12:36]<@Calum> licensing is a mess
[12:37]<@Calum> at least I have job security with this amount of work!
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[12:37]<+camerongray> We don't have many servers in our "server room" so no big deal - just 3 (Pair of P4s and a Dual Core Opteron Dell t105)
[12:37]<+camerongray> We open the window for cooling :P
[12:37]<@Calum> haha
[12:37]<@Calum> we do at least have AC, but we're an electrical contractor so that's kind of assumed
[12:38]<+camerongray> Almost had an accident with the window cleaner and his extended, water spraying pole :P
[12:38]<@Mulreay> Vladimir Putin and his wife are divorcing. At this time he asks that you respect his privacy in a way that he never would.
[12:38]<@Calum> those poles are crazy, I used to work opposite a window cleaning supplies shop and they just looked really odd. They used to demonstrate them by cleaning their own windows, or their van - cleanest windows in the city!
[12:43]<@Calum> oh, saw a pretty good deal on hotukdeals the other day, for an effectively free printer
[12:43]<@Mulreay> eaugh everything is broken.. bbl
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[12:43]<@Calum> lol
[12:48]<+camerongray> lol!
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[14:40]<@Mulreay> PC has died
[14:44]<@Mulreay> I mean full out gone to meet it's maker, bit the dust, pushing up daises, singing with the choir invisible, no longer working, bit the big one, gone to one's last resting place, kicked the bucket, cashed in one's chips, shuffled off the electronic coil, met one's end and so on and so forth.
[15:04]<+camerongray> What's it doing?
[15:04]<+camerongray> Or not doing
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[15:07]<@Mulreay> It's getting to hot and as the GPU with no fan was stuffed in by me and I removed the side casing it's not getting the best air flow. I think the GPU has died though.
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[15:07]<+camerongray> Ahh, not getting a display?
[15:08]<@Mulreay> I managed to get one earlier but kept getting a BSOD. Now it won't turn on at all
[15:08]<+camerongray> Ahh
[15:08]<+camerongray> Tried with the card out?
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[15:08]<@Mulreay> yep
[15:08]<+camerongray> Hmm, test the PSU
[15:08]<+camerongray> Could be the mobo though
[15:10]<@Mulreay> It's not the PSU as there is an led lit on the mb
[15:11]<+camerongray> Could still be the PSU though, might still be able to produce enough power
[15:11]<@Mulreay> ahh
[15:12]<@Mulreay> I do have a spare PSU come to think of it.. when I got the PC I got two of them
[15:12]<@Mulreay> Nightmare to strip out though
[15:12]<+camerongray> Ahh, May as well give it a go
[15:13]<@Mulreay> better than the mb though that would be torture
[15:13]<+camerongray> Yeah
[15:13]<@Mulreay> These pc's were not built for people like you or me to take apart
[15:14]<@Mulreay> HP Compaq 'you should've known better' is where I stand
[15:14]<+camerongray> lol
[15:15]<@Mulreay> I guess it's about time I built a real PC anyway
[15:15]<+camerongray> Yeah, if you have the money you really should
[15:15]<+camerongray> Haswell is out now1
[15:15]<@Mulreay> Intel?
[15:16]<+camerongray> Yeah, upgrade from Ivy Bridge
[15:16]<@Mulreay> Mmm interesting
[15:16]<+camerongray> What would your budget be?
[15:17]<@Mulreay> probably between ?500 and ?800
[15:17]<+camerongray> Nice
[15:17]<+camerongray> And you have a case
[15:17]<@Mulreay> yes
[15:17]<+camerongray> Should be able to get an i5 4670k
[15:18]<+camerongray> Hopefully something like a 660ti, maybe higher
[15:18]<+camerongray> 8gb RAM
[15:18]<+camerongray> Nice SSD
[15:18]<@Mulreay> The big deal for me at the moment is processor and RAM
[15:18]<+camerongray> And get a good cooler and overclock a bit
[15:18]<@Mulreay> to render videos etc
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[15:19]<+camerongray> Ahh yeah
[15:19]<+camerongray> You could bump up to an i7 then, but the i5 is great!
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[15:19]<@Mulreay> Not AMD?
[15:19]<+camerongray> Not at the moment, not doing anything special at the moment
[15:20]<@Mulreay> ahh
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